It's the Ideology, Stupid
Victor's at it again. Yet another post blaming communist atrocities on atheism. No matter how many times we talk about it and explain that all humans share the same basic moral instincts, that ideologies rather than lack of belief are what give us motivation to fight and harm others, we can't say anything that will penetrate the religion-hardened skull of the atheist-haters. But as long as he insists on blaming atheism for the crimes of communists, I will insist on calling out his lack of reason.
You can't say it isn't deliberate. I've tried to explain this to him over and over again. He goes and finds another atheist-hater who tells the same story (there are millions of them), and then he thinks that's all the proof he needs. As if they understand what motivates atheists better than we do.
We've talked about John Lennon's Imagine. What part of "nothing to kill or die for" is beyond their comprehension? Victor says this is the basis of communism, which leads to massive killing and atrocities. In Victor's incoherent conception of atheism, "nothing (ie. no ideology) to kill or die for" is precisely equivalent to the ideology (ie. communism) that has motivated massive killing and atrocities. Please get that through your head: ATHEISM IS NOT COMMUNISM. It's communism that led to all those things, not atheism. Got it?
Actually the morality of atheists (absent communism or some other destructive ideology) is superior to that of theists. You don't have to take my word for it. Here's a list of reasons from another atheist. Note especially number 10 in this list. I think it's the most important one. It makes the same point I have made in the past.
Assume for the sake of argument that God does not exist. We atheists take responsibility for our behavior. But what does the Christian do upon making the realization of no God? He no longer has the moral constraint imposed by that God, and so for him, anything goes. The atheist exercises self-control and responsibility. The theist is controlled by his God, and without God, by his own reckoning, he has no moral bounds. No constraints on his behavior based on empathy, respect, societal cohesion, etc.
How can any theist claim that his theistic morality is in any way better than atheists' morality? It takes Chutzpa.