tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-221547022510742794.post1389971321076525172..comments2023-06-24T01:15:34.627-07:00Comments on The Skeptic Zone: im-skepticalhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08267710618719895303noreply@blogger.comBlogger62125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-221547022510742794.post-76130121375951675262016-07-18T07:29:27.551-07:002016-07-18T07:29:27.551-07:00@JoeBtfsplk
Okay, dick sheath, thanks for admitti...@JoeBtfsplk<br /><br />Okay, dick sheath, thanks for admitting Hinman lied.<br /><br />And thanks for admitting neither you nor Hinman are "good" apologists.<br /><br />LOL<br />The clown who just posted this little gem:<br /><br />"...Ironically, you and the other two half-wits (Skep and Papa John's) are on the atheist side of the fundy coin...."<br /><br />Now says:<br /><br />"...You don't have to hurl insults...."<br /><br />Ironically indeed.<br /><br />Stop behaving like a child if you don't want to be treated like a child.Merrillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13321803025501580714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-221547022510742794.post-30178651377907051052016-07-18T07:27:57.962-07:002016-07-18T07:27:57.962-07:00"....Secular humanism as a guiding principle ..."....Secular humanism as a guiding principle for human behavior? Yeah, that could work out real well (lol):..."<br /><br />Christianity has failed. It has only brought wars, exploitation and genocide. Time for a reset.<br /><br />"... I really don't give a crap about polls either way because they can be manipulated....<br /><br />And yet, twice now you've refused to even address the idea that neither Pew nor Gallup would have any reason to inflate the percentage of atheists. Why is that?<br /><br />"...It has more to do with things like falling morality and a right-wing, intolerant type of "Christianity". "<br /><br />Yes, no true scotsman would be intolerant. LOL<br /><br />And you need to check the definition of the word "fundamentalist", fool. You keep using that word. I do not think you know what it means.<br /><br />As to name calling, reread the board then tell me who started it, you dim wit.Merrillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13321803025501580714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-221547022510742794.post-35115878973228030102016-07-18T07:21:54.382-07:002016-07-18T07:21:54.382-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Merrillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13321803025501580714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-221547022510742794.post-88250069404074498712016-07-18T07:13:42.961-07:002016-07-18T07:13:42.961-07:00Oh, and by the way, why are you so hostile, and wh...<i>Oh, and by the way, why are you so hostile, and why do you have to resort to name calling? Is it because you haven't grown up yet?</i><br />- That's rich. Perhaps you should listen to yourself.im-skepticalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08267710618719895303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-221547022510742794.post-90720548969526637672016-07-18T02:08:53.682-07:002016-07-18T02:08:53.682-07:00Listen here, prick: I am not your son. If he didn&...Listen here, prick: I am not your son. If he didn't debate you, then so be it. You don't have to hurl insults. If you ever did debate a good apologist, you would get you ass handed to you. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-221547022510742794.post-83926034766865561122016-07-17T11:50:24.677-07:002016-07-17T11:50:24.677-07:00(continued for Hinman and JoeBtfsplk)
".......(continued for Hinman and JoeBtfsplk)<br /><br /> ".....and God disproving industry in philosophy...."<br /><br />More hilarity.<br />Again, burden of proof is on those who insist a "god" must exist.<br />Deal with it.<br /><br /> "...it's not going away. "<br /><br />Nor is human stupidity. Again, your point is....?<br /><br /><br /><br />".....Atheism has not grown, it's stil about 3% of world pop."<br /><br />It has grown and I produced not one but two recent and reputable polls that say it is 11% to 13% (and that does not include agnostics).<br />You're a dick, Btfsplk, for reposting this and pretending it wasn't answered and disproven with documentation.<br />Oh, that's right....it's just "atheist fundie bullshit" isn't it.<br /><br />Moron.<br /><br /><br /> ".....Still 2 billion Christian, and Christianity has translated into modern thought pretty well."<br /><br />Again, maintained only by a high birthrate and third world conversions without which your numbers would actually be in decline.<br /><br /> "The problem is fundamentalism but that's growing."<br /><br />Your problem is growing?<br />LOL<br />Actually fundamentalism is shrinking. Millennials are leaving the evangelical movement.<br /><br />"Atheists are always inflating their numbers and trying tell themselves they are winning."<br /><br />Yup. goober, Pew and Gallup are run by atheists just trying to inflate their numbers.<br /><br />No idea how stupid you sound and Btfsplk has no idea how much of a fanboi he looks repeating your BS.<br /><br /><br /> "I Imagine you are just making typical mistakes like counting nones as atheist."Quote<br /><br />It would be comforting for you, I'm sure, to think that. But if you bothered to read the links I posted for you would know it's not true.<br /><br />Hinman got his ass kicked, Btfsplk, admit it.<br /><br />And learn to think for yourself, fanboi.Merrillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13321803025501580714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-221547022510742794.post-92226577748458535592016-07-17T11:49:29.117-07:002016-07-17T11:49:29.117-07:00@JoeBtfslk
"This statement is from Joe Hinma...@JoeBtfslk<br /><br />"This statement is from Joe Hinman, not me:"<br /><br />Then why are you posting it?<br /><br />Quote"It seems that you have a theory such that they see Christianity as following the traces of some well worn path in history such that it is suffering the fate of previous type religions. As though there is a historical law of repetition for religions. "<br /><br />Anyone who doesn't understand that religions have a shelf life hasn't studied the history of religions. At all.<br /><br /><br />"History does not work this way. "<br /><br />Actually it kind of does.<br /><br />"Modern historians do not accept history repeating itself or cycles in history. Cycle in economics but in history. So that idea is anathema to historians. "<br /><br />Citations needed.<br /><br />"Religion as a whole has proved to be pretty resilient. "<br /><br />So has human stupidity.<br />Your point?<br /><br />"Japan is an excellent example of how religion had changed and kept pace with modern ideas,"<br /><br />All social institutions morph and mutate. Who said anything different?<br />Oh, yea. You.<br />Somehow you imagine christianity isn't like other religions because it has the one true god......<br /><br /><br /> "I think the same happening for Christianity. "<br /><br />That christianity has mutated to remain viable over the last 2,000 years isn't in dispute.<br />Again, your point?<br /><br />"It's growing in 3rd world...."<br /><br />Yes, but as i pointed out earlier, you aren't going to recognize it when they are done with it.<br /><br /> ".....and it's keeping pace with modern thinking in first world. "<br /><br />The hell it is.<br />As education rises superstitions recede. Including yours.<br /><br />"There are Christians on the faculty of every major university in the world, and in every major department."<br /><br />So?<br />Again the trend of history is against you.<br />Not so long ago there were no atheists on university faculties. It was in fact grounds for being fired to admit to being an atheist.<br />Now 10% are openly atheist and 13.4% are openly agnostic.<br />23.4% "nones". And the higher the level of the institution the lower the percentage of faculty believing in "god".<br /><br />http://religion.ssrc.org/reforum/Gross_Simmons.pdf<br /><br /> "There are theology ensnarement in all the major universities. "{<br /><br />Hahahahahahahahaha.....<br />Nice work Btfsplk.<br />I'm sure you don't see the humor in your choice of quote here or how ridiculous it makes you and Hinman look.<br />What ever.<br /><br />Theology "ensnarement".<br />Hilarious.<br />Theology departments are vestigial and there will be fewer and fewer.<br /><br />"Desperate a rigorous anti-religion movement in religious studies...."<br /><br />LOL<br />Despite a rigorous Anti-redundency Department of redundency......<br /><br />(continued)<br />Merrillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13321803025501580714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-221547022510742794.post-87801701081565975452016-07-17T11:23:08.342-07:002016-07-17T11:23:08.342-07:00Why are you and Hinman going on about how many ath...Why are you and Hinman going on about how many atheists there are? Aside from being wrong, that was not the topic of discussion. Why don't you join the discussion in a more constructive way?im-skepticalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08267710618719895303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-221547022510742794.post-91498878882655114462016-07-17T07:20:58.413-07:002016-07-17T07:20:58.413-07:00This statement is from Joe Hinman, not me:
Quote&...This statement is from Joe Hinman, not me:<br /><br /><b>Quote"It seems that you have a theory such that they see Christianity as following the traces of some well worn path in history such that it is suffering the fate of previous type religions. As though there is a historical law of repetition for religions. History does not work this way. Modern historians do not accept history repeating itself or cycles in history. Cycle in economics but in history. So that idea is anathema to historians. <br /><br />Religion as a whole has proved to be pretty resilient. Japan is an excellent example of how religion had changed and kept pace with modern ideas, I think the same happening for Christianity. It's growing in 3rd world, and it's keeping pace with modern thinking in first world. There are Christians on the faculty of every major university in the world, and in every major department. There are theology ensnarement in all the major universities. Desperate a rigorous anti-religion movement in religious studies and God disproving industry in philosophy it's not going away. Atheism has not grown, it's stil about 3% of world pop. Still 2 billion Christian, and Christianity has translated into modern thought pretty well. The problem is fundamentalism but that's growing.<br /><br />Atheists are always inflating their numbers and trying tell themselves they are winning. I Imagine you are just making typical mistakes like counting nones as atheist."Quote</b>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-221547022510742794.post-17401231397921171932016-07-16T09:15:15.056-07:002016-07-16T09:15:15.056-07:00What crude does, as well as JBsptfn and quite a fe...What crude does, as well as JBsptfn and quite a few others, is known as poisoning the well. They're saying that people shouldn't even bother listening to any argument I or Papalinton might make, because of some supposed adverse information about us. Rather than judging our arguments on their own merit, just listen to the innuendo being spread around. im-skepticalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08267710618719895303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-221547022510742794.post-4373052633389333992016-07-16T03:49:53.995-07:002016-07-16T03:49:53.995-07:00Maybe there was a point in time where Papa did pla...Maybe there was a point in time where Papa did plagiarize. Though I'd note from the evidence given, Papa never said the passage he used was originally from him so I don't think he was deceitful.<br /><br />But it doesn't matter either way. There's two issues I see, with the latter being the most important. First, it's very much a fundamentalist Christian attitude to notice a bad decision a person made and think that decision defines them forever (they must be punished forever because they are forever a bad person). To sensible people not believing in hell, this is silly. People can change, and their past transgressions can be forgiven.<br /><br />Second, and more important in online debate, Crude's plagiarism attack is a straight up ad hominem. He uses it avoid anything Papa says, and that's just the sort of red herring to distract people that counts as an ad hominem. Even if the charge is true, it is irrelevant to the truth of Papa's assertions and consequently the soundNess of his arguments.Ryan Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15738381414795204410noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-221547022510742794.post-53319273338237622092016-07-15T20:29:34.691-07:002016-07-15T20:29:34.691-07:00Just checked secular web's blog roll.
I've...Just checked secular web's blog roll.<br />I've never discussed anything with you on any of them.<br />The only place I've encountered you is here and your own pathetic blog, son.<br /><br />And you haven't beaten anyone "like a drum" or even your own micro appendage.<br /><br />Pigeon chess = youMerrillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13321803025501580714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-221547022510742794.post-64369660237707352892016-07-15T18:01:36.428-07:002016-07-15T18:01:36.428-07:00"Papa, your post is just retarded. Where is t..."Papa, your post is just retarded. Where is this proof that Crude was stalking you? I don't buy it. And everything else you said is a pile of BS. That also goes for Merrill."<br /><br />Is that it? Is this all you have left, JBsptfn? Your contribution in this thread has been nothing more than bad mouthing. In assessing the total of your comments here, you seem to have developed all the characteristics of a genuine bottom feeder, a mud shoveler, much as crude has exhibited over the years. I guess it's a Christian thing. <br /><br />Merrill, Skep, Ryan and I have put in the hard yards in research and endeavoured to provide evidence, support statements, research surveys, data analysis and citations in order to substantiate the claims made. Your response? "Everything else you said is a pile of BS." Such a response is entirely anti-intellectual, incompetent, disingenuous and devoid of content. It has all the hallmarks of knee-jerk recalcitrance and callow petulance of a congenital juvenile. But then, belief in a mythos founded on superstition and borrowing the ubiquitous dying-and-rising-saviour motif as <a href="https://mythologymatters.wordpress.com/2015/08/29/are-dying-and-rising-gods-dead/" rel="nofollow">outlined HERE</a> by historian <a href="https://mythologymatters.wordpress.com/about-me/" rel="nofollow">Arthur George</a> from the many earlier traditions is not a substantive base onto which a fully-functioning epistemology can be properly constructed for the 21st C. <br /><br />Give it a break JBsptfn. Just as the Egyptian religion with its <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_the_Dead" rel="nofollow">Book of the Dead</a> existed for some 2,000 years, [longevity of a tradition is no reliable measure of truth] so too is Christianity with its Bible tracking the same inexorable route of its predecessor fading into the dust of history. History assuredly as any reliable criterion shows us in spades of the incalculable numbers of religions that have faded and eventually forgotten. I will probably not see the end of Christianity in my lifetime but the groundswell of transition to secular humanism as the guiding principle for human behaviour and relationships both here in Australia and in the US is palpable. I am content in that knowledge.Papalintonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03818630173726146048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-221547022510742794.post-1242462626706712372016-07-15T13:40:51.471-07:002016-07-15T13:40:51.471-07:00@JoeBtfsplk
"...Joe told me that he beat you...@JoeBtfsplk<br /><br />"...Joe told me that he beat you like a drum in a debate (on the Sec Web or something). ..."<br /><br />LOL<br />Not on this planet, son.<br />I do remember whacking that mole until it's head stopped popping up here though.Merrillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13321803025501580714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-221547022510742794.post-2228344396962315642016-07-15T07:36:24.851-07:002016-07-15T07:36:24.851-07:00Joe,
No, I do not care to exchange insults. If y...Joe,<br /><br />No, I do not care to exchange insults. If you listen to what I've been saying, you should know that. However, the comment you made that I deleted was just plain nasty, and I don't want that on my blog. Your other comment in this thread (July 13, 2016 at 8:50 PM) is completely off-topic and has nothing to do with any discussion that was in progress, aside from being factually wrong, as pointed out by Merrill. (New news out today: nones are now the largest voting bloc in the US, according to Pew.) That's why I asked if there was some point you were trying to make. This isn't about insults, it's about trying to make sense of what you say. And by the way, I still haven't been able to decipher what you meany by the last sentence in that comment. To me (and to others, I'm sure) it comes across as meaningless nonsense.im-skepticalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08267710618719895303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-221547022510742794.post-84445970357352867002016-07-15T06:34:29.147-07:002016-07-15T06:34:29.147-07:00Skep you really want to do this insult thing? I do...Skep you really want to do this insult thing? I don't need to waste my time practicing typing here.Joseph Hinman (Metacrock)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06957529748541493998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-221547022510742794.post-11320448507597710732016-07-15T06:31:11.967-07:002016-07-15T06:31:11.967-07:00howvdo get the commemt system you have Skeptioc? h...howvdo get the commemt system you have Skeptioc? how do you get a better oneJoseph Hinman (Metacrock)https://www.blogger.com/profile/06957529748541493998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-221547022510742794.post-34822871099924266872016-07-14T23:22:56.216-07:002016-07-14T23:22:56.216-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Papalintonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03818630173726146048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-221547022510742794.post-31671621612407993812016-07-14T17:15:50.380-07:002016-07-14T17:15:50.380-07:00@JoeBtfsplk
Are you for real son?
Yup, goober, ...@JoeBtfsplk<br /><br /><br />Are you for real son?<br /><br />Yup, goober, the most recent polls by Pew and Gallup are "fundy atheist crap".<br /><br />LOL<br />Yes the "truths' you and Joe blathered that had no basis in reality, only wishful thinking and were at odds with the majority of biblical scholars and biblical textual analysts.<br /><br />Do you ever listen to yourself, fool?<br /><br />My only experience with Crude was on David Marshall's pathetic blog where he popped up to serve as the blazing saddles "Howard Johnson is absolutely right" wing man. And that was quite enough. He's a dick, a bully and doesn't in my experience do anything except attack other posters. It doesn't surprise me at all that he stalks.<br /><br />And speaking of "stalking", wtf do you think it's called when you pull this kind of shit because you're losing an argument?<br /><br />".... I have done some searches on you (with your comments on other blogs). You have been a nuisance wherever you go....."<br /><br />And then you resort to this:<br /><br />"You guys must think your stuff doesn't stink, so when you get called out on something, you are being harassed or stalked. "<br /><br />Hilarious.<br />You're here whining and defending an idiot who just called Richard Dawkins "Dawks" and said he doesn't know his head from his ass and quoted undocumented 'statistics' about atheism that were manufactured bullshit.<br /><br />What you smell ain't our stuff. moron. Check your diaper.<br /><br />"In conclusion, you three need to grow up and learn what you try to oppose. Your Atheistic Presuppositionalism is childish. Good day."<br /><br />Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha......<br /><br />I'm sorry, that is side splitting. Yes we all need degrees in Fairieology to refute the existence of fairies.<br />I'm guessing you're in your mid teens at this point, son.<br /><br />That's one for the joke books and the forums.<br /><br />"Atheist Presuppositionalism".<br /><br />Sometimes the jokes write themselves and sometimes they're named "Btfsplk".<br /><br />You've earned the nick name and it's going to stick.<br /><br /><br /><br />Merrillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13321803025501580714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-221547022510742794.post-85227464901331358742016-07-14T15:30:53.861-07:002016-07-14T15:30:53.861-07:00And you just go on being a denier of science. If ...And you just go on being a denier of science. If I try to argue that evolution and the second law of thermodynamics really are compatible, you and your creationist friends may get all hot under the collar and angry at me for not buying your bullshit, and claim that I just don't understand it. But I will keep arguing against your ignorance. Because whether you think so or not, I understand it and you don't.im-skepticalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08267710618719895303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-221547022510742794.post-1838231286519354722016-07-14T14:12:01.342-07:002016-07-14T14:12:01.342-07:00This is probably going to be my last post here for...This is probably going to be my last post here for a while, so let me say this:<br /><br />To Merrill: You are the one who isn't taken seriously. Your most recent post is full of fundy atheist crap, and you wouldn't accept the truths that me and Joe tried to share with you about when the Gospels were written (and how they were transmitted). Also, Joe told me that he beat you like a drum in a debate (on the Sec Web or something). <br /><br />To IMS: I have done some searches on you (with your comments on other blogs). You have been a nuisance wherever you go. One person said that he tried to explain certain concepts to you, and you didn't understand them, so you kept arguing against them. I went to his site and mentioned your name, and he vehemently told me to avoid trying to argue with you. <br /><br />Also, Crude calling Papa Plagiarizer out on his BS isn't stalking. You guys must think your stuff doesn't stink, so when you get called out on something, you are being harassed or stalked. <br /><br />In conclusion, you three need to grow up and learn what you try to oppose. Your Atheistic Presuppositionalism is childish. Good day. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-221547022510742794.post-60570138520018713002016-07-14T07:24:39.271-07:002016-07-14T07:24:39.271-07:00@JBsptfn
"....everything else you said is a ...@JBsptfn<br /><br />"....everything else you said is a pile of BS. <br />That also goes for Merrill. ..."<br /><br /><br />Yup, goober, Pew and Gallup polls that directly contradict Hinman are nothing more than "BS".<br /><br />And you wonder why no one takes you seriously.<br />Merrillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13321803025501580714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-221547022510742794.post-60241837780008044492016-07-14T07:06:14.934-07:002016-07-14T07:06:14.934-07:00Where is this proof that Crude was stalking you?
-...<i>Where is this proof that Crude was stalking you?</i><br />- It is crude's custom to always accuse Papalinton of plagiarizing whenever he mentions him, no matter what the context. I this particular instance, it was MY post that he was responding to, so why did he even need to bring it up? The answer is obvious.<br /><br />By the way, I followed one of those two links and saw what his complaint was about. It seems there were two sentence fragments that were repeated verbatim. Not even a full sentence, mind you, and this is what crude has been harping endlessly about for years.<br /><br /><i>And, IMS, you can't beat Joe's arguments, so you have to insult him. Interesting.</i><br />- I would be happy if Joe wanted to make an actual argument - especially one that addresses the topic at hand. I had to delete one of his comments - not because I don't like what he says, but because it was an over-the-top personal attack. That's the first time I've ever done that. I don't want this blog to become like so many others out there, where people just attack each other. And that goes for you, too. You haven't had much to say that has any substance, or that addresses the topic of the post in some meaningful way. If all you want to do is cut people down, you can do that in crude's blog, or Stan's.im-skepticalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08267710618719895303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-221547022510742794.post-71544968437100248392016-07-14T06:19:37.692-07:002016-07-14T06:19:37.692-07:00Papa, your post is just retarded. Where is this pr...Papa, your post is just retarded. Where is this proof that Crude was stalking you? I don't buy it. And everything else you said is a pile of BS. That also goes for Merrill. <br /><br />And, IMS, you can't beat Joe's arguments, so you have to insult him. Interesting. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-221547022510742794.post-75682089654228156682016-07-14T00:23:36.781-07:002016-07-14T00:23:36.781-07:00@Joe Hinman
"Dawks"?
Seriously?
Sorry,...@Joe Hinman<br /><br />"Dawks"?<br />Seriously?<br /><br />Sorry, Dr, Dawkins standing in the scientific community is unassailable.<br />You may not like what he has to say but there is no way to credibly deny that he is a first rate intellect. <br />And someone who can barely post a coherent sentence or follow an intelligible thought to its conclusion probably shouldn't be projecting any cogitations about heads and asses.<br />Is that dissertation still under consideration, fool?<br /><br />{"....Several polls have been conducted by Gallup International: in their 2012 poll of 57 countries, 13% of respondents were "convinced atheists" and in their 2015 poll of 65 countries 11% were "convinced atheists"....."} wiki<br /><br />11% to 13% worldwide, fool.<br /><br />http://www.wingia.com/web/files/news/290/file/290.pdf<br /><br />{"....major new survey of more than 35,000 Americans by the Pew Research Center finds that the percentage of adults (ages 18 and older) who describe themselves as Christians has dropped by nearly eight percentage points in just seven years, from 78.4% in an equally massive Pew Research survey in 2007 to 70.6% in 2014....."}<br /><br />http://www.pewforum.org/2015/05/12/americas-changing-religious-landscape/<br /><br />Adults who identify as atheists in the US went from 1.6% in 2007 to 3.1% in 2014.<br /><br />https://baptistnews.com/article/u-s-atheist-population-is-growing-and-needs-radical-hospitality-christian-filmmaker-says/<br /><br />Almost double in 7 years. You should be very anxious, fool, and apparently you are.<br /><br />Not even half of LGBT people identify as christers.<br /><br />http://www.advocate.com/politics/religion/2015/05/12/report-half-lgb-americans-identify-christian<br /><br />The expansion of gay rights is a resounding defeat for american christianity. Don't kid yourself-if christians could they would still be stoning/burning/hanging gays.<br /><br />Christianity worships a "holy" book that claims humans were made by a magic man breathing life into clay, fool. If the first chapter of your bible is metaphorical what good is it?<br /><br />You need to take more time with your posts, son.<br />Say more with fewer words. Make a single point and support it with documentation.<br /><br />And for crap's sake....learn how to turn on spell check.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />http://www.pewforum.org/2015/05/12/americas-changing-religious-landscape/Merrillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13321803025501580714noreply@blogger.com